Community Meeting July 27, 2013

Below is the abridged chat log for the latest Wastelands Community Meeting.  The Meetings, hosted by NeoBokrug Elytis (estate owner), are open to all and typically divided into three topics for discussion:  Estate, Game, and Roleplay.  Additional comments and questions pertaining to the topics discussed in this meeting can be posted on the forum when it automatically creates a new thread linking to this article.  Community Meetings are held on the last Saturday of every month at 2:00 PM SLT at the Potato Farm arena in The Wastelands.



NeoBokrug Elytis: We’re gunna start!

NeoBokrug Elytis: As usual, this meeting is supposed to be an hour long, and after that we’ll have the War Zone event. Probably in The Great Fissure with the new lift installed.

NeoBokrug Elytis: We review the estate in 3 categories, starting with land related stuff, moving on to game related stuff, then finally an open discussion about RP.

[2013/07/27 14:01]  NeoBokrug Elytis: With time between each section for questions and comments.

[2013/07/27 14:01]  NeoBokrug Elytis: As far as land goes, it’s been pretty quiet. There’s been an uptick in residency, which to be honest is a lot better than a downswing.

[2013/07/27 14:02]  NeoBokrug Elytis: I do not have land for sale in Fort Stygian, as it’s all filled up! I also don’t have any land for sale in The Great Fissure, but there’s one tiny parcel for sale by a resident.

[2013/07/27 14:02]  NeoBokrug Elytis: The majority of what is available is in The Wastelands and The Junkyard.

[2013/07/27 14:02]  Aposiopesis Fullstop: That’s pretty awesome!

[2013/07/27 14:03]  The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): Yep! :)

[2013/07/27 14:03]  Aposiopesis Fullstop: And… pretty backwards from the way it’s ever been. XD

[2013/07/27 14:03]  Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): /me claps

[2013/07/27 14:03]  Aki Shichiroji: welp let’s not jinx it :P

NeoBokrug Elytis: I think the switch in how pricing is done has helped a little, but that’s really a long-tail project that I won’t know how it works until a few months have passed.

[2013/07/27 14:04]  NeoBokrug Elytis: I’ve been a bit more strict on reclaiming land due to how the pricing has changed, but hardly anyone has had land reclaimed because of it. Most people at least contact me and we work things out.

NeoBokrug Elytis: A project I have lined up for this month is to update my parcel fillers, because I bought a bunch more in theme junk. I will probably refresh all the empty parcels. :)

[2013/07/27 14:05]  NeoBokrug Elytis: That’s about it for land news, anyone got any questions or comments?

[2013/07/27 14:06]  Aposiopesis Fullstop: I do!

[2013/07/27 14:06]  Aposiopesis Fullstop: Is the Free Move Program gone forever, what with the land price changes?

[2013/07/27 14:07]  NeoBokrug Elytis: No, people can still move. It was just gone during the transition when I had to move people out of the old cape.

NeoBokrug Elytis: The referral program is gone though.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions, comments, or thoughts?

NeoBokrug Elytis: Guess not!

NeoBokrug Elytis: Moving on to game stuff then.



NeoBokrug Elytis: Perfectly Preserved Twonkies are back, but only acquirable from Saul. Thus keeping them rare, but not super rare.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): mmmmmmm

NeoBokrug Elytis: The first fishing alpha went okay, but not okay enough so it had a second one.

NeoBokrug Elytis: The second one was more in line with what I wanted. But I hardly have any feedback on either.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: /me didn’t have time to participate.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): /me dint either :{

Aposiopesis Fullstop: One week only, and limited only to residents, is a small sample size.

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): i barely had time to test Alpha2. Folks should post their comments and thoughts if they tested it! i will later today from what little i did

Pea (precious.peapod): end of summer alot to do before back to school so time is a lil limtied here

NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah I understand that. Once I make some changes, build some dummy items, we’ll move to a beta which will be open to everyone.

Masaka Miliandrovic: whoo hoo

Terrenn: woooooo!

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Mmm. There are few better words in gaming than “Open Beta.”

NeoBokrug Elytis: The beta will have items that you’ll need to test instead of just flavor text.

NeoBokrug Elytis: But like the alpha the beta items will expire after a certain date.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Bait is kind of tricky. What I am thinking is that you’ll have to have a fishing rod euipped, rez the bait, and click the bait.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Sounds pretty logical.

NeoBokrug Elytis: There will be a lot of inventory juggling because of it.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): can bait be found, or sold?

NeoBokrug Elytis: That way you can fish up bait without bait, and then bait for fish

NeoBokrug Elytis: When it’s release, bait can be sold

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): ah

NeoBokrug Elytis: You can only fish up bait.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Aw, we can’t have a bait shop? Hee

Patrice Cournoyer: get working on the bait for sale signs

NeoBokrug Elytis: I was thinking of making an NPC that trades salvage for bait.

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): i think Neo said you will be able to sell any bait you catch to other scavengers.

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): is it live bait that can be used once or artificial lures that can be reused?

NeoBokrug Elytis: All bait is single used.

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): is that accurate Neo?

NeoBokrug Elytis: Sandusky: Yes.

Patrice Cournoyer: will we be able to eat the bait?

NeoBokrug Elytis: No

NeoBokrug Elytis: Bait is to catch fish that you can eat.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): eat the fish?

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): ah

Masaka Miliandrovic: Fry the fish?

NickCitrus: How many different fish will there be?

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): can we be like my hick cousins and use quarter sticks of dynamite?

NeoBokrug Elytis: Asbin: Perhaps!

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): HAHA!

Aposiopesis Fullstop: WAHOO!

NeoBokrug Elytis: It may have seemed like a slow game development month, but a lot went on.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Not much to show other than fishing tweaks.

NeoBokrug Elytis: That’s about it for game stuff, any questions, comments or thoughts?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I do…

NickCitrus: How many different fish will there be?

NeoBokrug Elytis: Nick: I dunno, I plan to expand on it as time goes on.

Psycho Baroque: did someone built wraps yet?

Masaka Miliandrovic: Did you get my IM, Neo?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I brought this up last time, but I want to sorta do a show-of-hands thing.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Psycho, I don’t think so.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: So…

NeoBokrug Elytis: Masaka: Did you reply to my reply

Aposiopesis Fullstop: “I wear the HUD less often than I’d like to because I don’t have enough food.” Anyone who finds that true, say “Me.”

Patrice Cournoyer: This is not really game but I talked to two complete newbs at the bunker last week

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): me

Terrenn: Me

Masaka Miliandrovic: Just saw it Neo

Patrice Cournoyer: separately.. maybe have a notecard for SL orientation help

Cell (cellbae): me

Masaka Miliandrovic: I’ll get back to ya

NickCitrus: Me

Angh (angharad.greggan): me

Psycho Baroque: food is in many crates

tralala Loordes: I think new players do not ‘find’ enough food to use the HUD a lot…

NeoBokrug Elytis: I actually increased the food spawn since the last meeting.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’m not finding many crates.

Pea (precious.peapod): me

Cell (cellbae): i’ve mostly been trading alot of what i find for food

Terrenn: mystery meat and it made me sick thats all

Patrice Cournoyer: RockAngel is eating all the crates ;-p

Masaka Miliandrovic: I have been seeing a lot of starving new folks myself.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): haha true Patrice

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): well, starvation seems appropriate for a place called the wastelands

tralala Loordes: I give out a lot of food to starving players…

Aposiopesis Fullstop: New players have 50% food when they start — so that’s 2.5 hours of food.

Patrice Cournoyer: yes Masaka you hear the sad groans as they starve

NeoBokrug Elytis: I thought new people started at 100%?

NeoBokrug Elytis: OH! I know what happened

NeoBokrug Elytis: When I doubled stomach sizes, I did not increase the starting amount

NeoBokrug Elytis: I will fix that.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: You doubled our “stomach size,” but our metabolism is just as fast.

Masaka Miliandrovic: /me feels bloated

NeoBokrug Elytis: No, metabolism isn’t doubled.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Even then, it’s only five hours until we starve — and we don’t find 100% BV worth of food in that time.

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): waist-lands

NeoBokrug Elytis: hah

Angh (angharad.greggan): haha

Pea (precious.peapod): HAHAH

Terrenn: lol

Cell (cellbae): it was about 2 hours before my hud was telling me i was starving

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Especially if we stop to talk — or stop to craft at the Masheens, for which you have to be HUDded and which can take time — it is bad.

NeoBokrug Elytis: How about this:

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I really, sincerely, think the metabolism rate needs to be at least halved, if not more.

Psycho Baroque: there is a trader for food

Patrice Cournoyer: oooh yeah clarification… if we are set to run, we metabolise faster, right?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I don’t find enough scrap to trade to that trader, and that’s all the more true of new players.

Patrice Cournoyer: and even faster still if we have a weapon?

Masaka Miliandrovic: Should be a soup kitchen for FN fighters.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: New people can’t afford to trade away their scrap; they’re just starting out.

NeoBokrug Elytis: I make a new type of Aeg’s Stew, but you have to donate salvage to Aeg so he can trade to other scavengers to fill the stew, and it’s a community thing. Anyone can take a taste once every 18 houts, but it requires salvage to operate.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Or at least charge it up

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): ooo I’ll work in the soup kitchen!

Patrice Cournoyer: I like that idea, Masaka!

Psycho Baroque: but yes the crates are harder to find

NickCitrus: What amount of BV would you have to put in?

bleue lacroix (bluelacroix): whispers: without Patrice i’d be starved alrady.

Psycho Baroque: and buzzards are missing

Aposiopesis Fullstop: How much salvage would that cost? The whole thing I’m saying is that we don’t find enough crates to have the BV to trade to Saul for food.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Any

tralala Loordes: Have the salvage drop rates changed drastically?

Cell (cellbae): we can eat buzzards?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Any! That’s awesome!

Masaka Miliandrovic: /me hasn’t seen a buzzard in a buzzard’s age

Cell (cellbae): /me is still noob here

NickCitrus: Will the buzzards be back anytime soon?

NeoBokrug Elytis: I don’t think that the rate has changed at all.

Patrice Cournoyer: when the buzzards come we can kill them

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): Yes cell. You have to kill it first.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: They give tasty and very filling legs.

Patrice Cournoyer: or it mebbe kill you

Aposiopesis Fullstop: But, yes – they bite back. ;)

NeoBokrug Elytis: The buzzards are on my to do list, but that is a long project.

Terrenn: they kill me all the time

Cell (cellbae): is there something you need to do to eat a cactus if you collected one?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: What was wrong with them as they were, again?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Cacti go into the cure for the Rustmouth Plague, Cell.

Cell (cellbae): oh! i been trying to figure out why i can’t eat it, lol

Angh (angharad.greggan): or you can trade them to saul for food

Aposiopesis Fullstop: That too; they’re tradeable like other stuff.

Cell (cellbae): that’s what i ended up doing

NeoBokrug Elytis: The buzzards have pretty severe brain damage, and when I changed how the salvage servers worked and deleted the old server, they couldn’t contact the new server and ingeneral they’re some of the oldest code around and really ugle.

Cell (cellbae): traded for food

Terrenn: or they give a lot of healing time on the machine

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Okay, so are you saying “The buzzards as they are completely don’t work,” or “The buzzards as they are don’t work as well as I’d like them to?”

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): At all

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Because, well… I’d gladly endure some derpy buzzards if we wouldn’t be so screwed on food.

NeoBokrug Elytis: The buzzards completely don’t work

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Okay.

Patrice Cournoyer: what about the little bugs

Patrice Cournoyer: they were easy to shoot

Terrenn: yes

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): That too

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I think the beetle code was the same sort of foundation as the buzzard code.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Months ago, I spent a week working on new buzzards, and I kind of shelved it out of frustration.

NeoBokrug Elytis: But yeah, I have a big backlog of game stuff to do

NeoBokrug Elytis: What do you think of community aeg stew?

Masaka Miliandrovic: /me likes

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I think it would be a really huge help.

NickCitrus: I like the idea of Aeg Stew coming back

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Would his winter stew be more high-powered, then?

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): What if it worked like the healing machine?

Patrice Cournoyer: yes yes for Aeg Stew

NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes.

tralala Loordes: Yes – soup kitchen is a good idea

Masaka Miliandrovic: Aeg’s always good for a post FN hug . . .

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): THe better the salvage the more stew you get?

NeoBokrug Elytis: Snakes: Probably not because it’s a community thing. He’ll have a cap on BV input, and a timer to count that down.

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): I see

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Can it still have possible Delicious Meaty Bits? :D

NeoBokrug Elytis: Perhaps.

NeoBokrug Elytis: But I think the stew will be offline at random times during the day as he goes to trade stuff for stew

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’ve always liked the idea of Mulligan Stew for here.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): it’s true

NeoBokrug Elytis: I dunno I will flesh it out later.

NeoBokrug Elytis: So. Fistwraps

NeoBokrug Elytis: I am about to make the leather fistwrap recipe public knowledge.

Patrice Cournoyer: is leather one of the ingredients?

NeoBokrug Elytis: /me goes to look it up.

NeoBokrug Elytis: ((Editor’s Note:  Recipe removed by request.  Come to the meetings! :P))

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’ve tried everything I can brain, and don’t even know how many components it needs.

NeoBokrug Elytis: At Aeg

Snakes Fang (snakes.fang): oh

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Well, at least that’s logical.

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): makes sense to me

Aposiopesis Fullstop: /me still deeply misses three-item combinations.

NeoBokrug Elytis: You’re on your own from there.

NeoBokrug Elytis: That’s all for game stuff.



NeoBokrug Elytis: Open floor for RP things!

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): I have something I’d like to share, not really RP though

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Do eet, Sam! :D :D

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx):

Terrenn: wow …nice

Masaka Miliandrovic: Comic Life?

Vikki Placebo: thats neat!

Angh (angharad.greggan): nice and gritty Sam

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): yeah :)

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): ty!

Patrice Cournoyer: very cool Sam!

NeoBokrug Elytis: Don’t think of it as wasted.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): I have 14 pages, making episode 1

Aposiopesis Fullstop: :D

Asbin (hasbeenboresmore): cool!

Aki Shichiroji: Cool :D

Masaka Miliandrovic: I’ve toyed with the idea of a WL graphic novel.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: A few people have, through the years! Iconius Yatsenko has been wanting to as well.

Patrice Cournoyer: it would have to be graphic with the high rate of illiteracy

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): Neo was very kind to grant permission to use his world, as Angh did. Thank you both :)

Aki Shichiroji: Scrim Pinion put together a few issues a few years ago.

Masaka Miliandrovic: RP wise, I wanna talk to that slaver ghoul before anyone offs him fer good like.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oh yeah, I forgot about that one, Aki!

Aposiopesis Fullstop: — one of Icon’s drawings

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): can I see any of those past projects anywhere?

Terrenn: great stuff ;-)

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): did they use in-world photography?

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Trying to find Scrim’s… I know I had the link once…

Angh (angharad.greggan): yes, thanks Neo

Aposiopesis Fullstop:

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): i think there is or was some nefarious characters hereabouts in the last few weeks? i’ve been working constantly but i’ve heard/seen rumor of it on the forums ;P

NickCitrus: The men kidnapping children?

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): Wut children D:

Masaka Miliandrovic: ghouls, to be more precise

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): DONT BE RACIST.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): yes those ghouls are horrible child eaters, I hear

Masaka Miliandrovic: Ghouls is what they is :-/

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Aye — Cliban Callow and Spiderspite, who also sometimes goes by Bert. Both Ghouls. At least one’s a torturer.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: And slaver, at that.

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): ghouls need to eat too!

Patrice Cournoyer: the problem with WL political correctness is that all species think they are the best, except smoothskins

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I think we’re lucky if they’re just eating the kids — I worry they’re trying to make a new herd of slaves.

NickCitrus: I think I heard they already took four kids

NickCitrus: I don’t think they are going to be stopping any time soon

Patrice Cournoyer: there is plenty more kids, thank goodness

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): Make them stop. Duh.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): if they start slaving here…. oh brother…

Masaka Miliandrovic: Well, they’s bound to run outta candy.

Cell (cellbae): spider was chasing me around a couple times, I didn’t think I was that short !

Masaka Miliandrovic: Anyway, these ghouls ain’t yer father’s ghouls.

NickCitrus: Apo, didn’t you say they might be ghasts?

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): Don’t be mean to the ghouls, they are a vital part of the ecosystem.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Yeah, they’re on the fast track to Ghast, I figure. Best to put them down quickly.

Masaka Miliandrovic: And I wanna interrogate them before anyone goes burnin em.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): I want to burn them NOW!!!

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): Hey, let’s not go overboard here.

NickCitrus: I don’t think they will tell you anything

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I figure Sam should be the one who gets to put the torch to them. It’s been almost a year since she murdered the last Ghoul jerk we had causing trouble, so… she’s probably got the bloodlust again.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Just look at those eyes of hers. Simmering with pure vindictive evil underneath, she is.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): I got a tourch all ready…

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): /me gets her mean face on

Victor the Bear (malice.shepherd): D: racism.

Masaka Miliandrovic: Fire GOOD!

Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’ve always thought it would be interesting to have a WL: Torch.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): YES!!

tralala Loordes: There is one – Digger made it

Aposiopesis Fullstop: An actual light source… and it would work like a clobberin’ stick, only with fire dots.

tralala Loordes: hegave it to us during that last big long RP

NeoBokrug Elytis: Fire dots are way overpowered.

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): that’s right Tra :)

NeoBokrug Elytis: WL: TOrches and pitchforks will never be made with how often I upset everyone.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: You’re made of metal though!

spiderspite: “Hello, flies…”

The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): what i’ve heard about the current RP story going on regarding the former slavers from outta town is pretty cool. they were bad guys before they were ghouls though :P (translation: ghoul does not always have to equal evil villain monster)

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Huh, I never got that torch. Dang.

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Indeed! Bad guys gone worse.

Cell (cellbae): speak of the devil…

Sam Wyx (sam.wyx): yeah they are very bad men. dead men

Pea (precious.peapod): stinky bug face

Aposiopesis Fullstop: Spiderspite’s got a bad case of jaundice, man.

NeoBokrug Elytis: Whelp, I am gunna get ready for War Zone in the Fissure

NeoBokrug Elytis: See you there!