Community Meeting: October 2, 2021

Below is a short summary of the latest Community Meeting, followed by its chat logs – which have been gently edited for formatting, to put questions and answers in bold for easy skimming, and to omit greetings and farewells and other such asides.  Meetings are hosted by Estate owner NeoBokrug Elytis at 2:00 pm on the first Saturday of every month at The Potato Farm in The Wastelands, and the discussion is typically divided into three main topics: Estate, Game, and Roleplay & Events.  Everyone is welcome to attend!



➳ Occupancy has held steady since the previous month as residents grab the newly-available Junkyard plots.
➳ The Wastelands now has a Twitter account at with inworld photos, updates, and more!
➳ Progress has continued on the Northgate Community Gateway, but is paused for now while Neo works on the Halloween Quest.
➳ Landowners can pick up some of the newest WLPW freebies in the tier payment area.
➳ A change to how Let’s Encrypt root certifications work with older browsers and devices – like SL – was set to cause those certifications to expire, interrupting communications between regions and servers.  Neo identified the issue and updated things for The Wastelands, and the issues were resolved for the Grid itself, as well.

➳ Neo has been pushing out small updates to the HUD to fine-tune recent updates: DoTs in general had not been stacking and compounding as they were meant to, and Radiation is now more deadly.
➳ The Healing Masheens have been updated with new code  – they now heal Radiation DoTs, and also do quicker bursts of healing with proportionately less healing per burst.
➳ Neo has been experimenting with a movement override system to help universalize how HUDded avatars move; it may or may not work.
➳ The intent of the movement override would be to prevent high jumping, make it possible for game elements to slow down or speed up avatar movement, and improve swimming.
➳ The Dune Trapper is still inactive, pending updates.
➳ Sandusky accidentally revealed a recipe!
V2 Clarifications
➳ Neither avatar size nor Playable Race is planned to affect speed or jump height, but avatar size will affect what types of weapons one can equip.
➳ All current game items are expected to be exchangeable for versions from the new system, but not at a rate of 1 to 1: at least two items will need to be exchanged to receive one of the new version of the item.  This will be true of Trader Scrit, as well.
Halloween Activities
➳ The Halloween Quest is Neo’s main priority until it is released (typically around a week before Halloween.)
➳ WL: Pumpkins are now spawning, and will continue spawning until November 1.
➳ Saul the Food Trader is still dead.

➳ The Trick-or-Treat script for landowners has been updated: it now works on October 30, October 31, and November 1, and has an option to send the owner an IM about who has received an item and which one they received.  This script is available in the tier payment area.
➳ TRIGGER TREAT, the Wastelands’ annual Halloween party, will happen on Saturday, October 30. If you want to DJ or perform live, contact Apo!
➳ Reminder: The roleplay character template has been added to the Wiki – add yours today!

Weekly Event Summary:
All Times SLT:
Sundays: Brawlers Market Fightclub – Noon; Storytime with Wasteland Drifter – 2pm
Mondays: Mutant Drum Circle – 6pm
Tuesdays: Film Night with Wasteland Drifter – 5pm
Wednesdays: Escape The Miasma! with Soda Foxen – 6pm
Thursdays: Booze & Blather [RP Event] – 6pm
Saturdays:  Sandling’s Evening Madness – 1pm; Fight Night – 3pm; Apo’s Audio Atrocities – 5pm

First Saturday: Community Meeting – 2pm
Second Saturday: Barrelhead Bazaar [RP Event] – 11am
Third Saturday: Wasted Raiders’ Raid – Noon
Fourth Saturday: Second Second Saturday Skull Ball – 2pm

Want to host an event?  Let Neo know the event details by Wednesday night and he’ll add it to the weekly group announcements, Discord announcement, and Plurk feed!


NeoBokrug Elytis: Thanks for showing up everyone! Like we usually do, I’ll drone on for a while about different aspects of the estate, with time for questions and comments in between. I’ll talk about estate and land, then The Game, and finally an open floor for Role-play and events.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): <3
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): \O.O/
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): lel
NeoBokrug Elytis: This past month occupancy has stayed the same, but people have moved around to get their clutches on that sweet sweet junkyard dirt.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Our community gatway Northgate is still progressing slowly, but progress nonetheless!
Dassina Andel: More rusty than sweet.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I miss that junkyard dirt
NeoBokrug Elytis: I have been talking with some marketing folks in SL, and taking notes. As such the estate has a twitter account ( ) as opposed to my own personal account. I will be using that to repost press blog entries, nice flickr photos, and other interesting SL things, etc.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It probably msises you, too!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: *misses. Ye gods, I cannot type today.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): ❤
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): i miss saying hay tay
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): hay tay
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): hay cc ❤
Dassina Andel: And Toki’s internet fails again
NeoBokrug Elytis: Since we have a community gateway, and even though we’re not offically open as a community gateway, we still get other visitors from OTHER community gateways that are linking to us already. So if you’ve seen more new folks than normal, that may be why.
NeoBokrug Elytis: However, scripted work on Northgate will be paused so I can work on the halloween quest. :)
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Other community gateways? Like… dinosaurs?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Nah, there’s about maybe a dozen REALLY active community gateways out there on the grid.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Everyone else sort of simmers.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Ohh
Storm Thunders: newby stooo
NeoBokrug Elytis: London City or Firestorm for example, is probably the biggest ones right now.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I see!
NeoBokrug Elytis: My brain is pulling up blanks on other estate things that were going on last month — Any questions about estate stuff?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: …My brain is also buffering.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oh. I guess there’s the bit where Let’s Encrypt almost set everything on fire, but it got fixed?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Or is that… still fixing?
Storm Thunders: fire makes it good?
Sandling Honey: ” This is fine”
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha yeah, I think I actually helped point the lindens in the right direction for the fix this time.
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): they should start paying you
NeoBokrug Elytis: Basically I shot an email out to a linden who had been asked to be notified if there were http issues, and the games here are a little sensitive to that sort of grid weather, so I see it early.
NeoBokrug Elytis: However, in this case I wasn’t seeing the issue, and in some of the other groups I am in, others were.
Candide LeMay: why, everytime he talks to them it means more work for them
NeoBokrug Elytis: And I knew Let’s Encrypt was doing this thing with their certs, and I had just updated my certs last week out of an abundance of caution.
Candide LeMay: or “some work”, i’m not sure they do anything otherwise
Dassina Andel: The junkpile of SL… is where solutions are found. :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: So when the wheels started falling off Friday AND someone mentioned Let’s Encrypt, I knew what it was. Which helped LL find a bug in thier system about it
RM Beedit (rmarie.beedit): thumbs up Neo!
NeoBokrug Elytis: My email was basically: “This is a problem now, it will probably be grid-pocalypse tomorrow, here’s why”
Second Life: Your snapshot can now be viewed here.
Sandling Honey: Did you tell them you have unquestionable experience with post-apocalyptic situations too?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I spend a lot of my time at LL office hour meetings if I can make them.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha, I have told others such things this week. :)
Keiratilia: the end is at hand
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions about estate / land things?
Keiratilia: and the rest will follow by the way
Keiratilia: Amen
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Become NeoBokrug Linden
NeoBokrug Elytis: Moving on to game things!


Dassina Andel: Halloweeeeeen!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: HALLOWEEEEEEEEN!
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): hello when?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I have been pushing out at least three micro updates to the HUD each week it seems. Just to sort of fine tune all the newer stuff.
NeoBokrug Elytis: The bigger update this month is the start of the transition to version 2 of the communications code. Right now the HUD has a co-processor for it, borrowing memory space in a script that has space for it.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Currently the healing masheens are the only thing using the new code.
Dassina Andel: I for one, like the new micro-heals.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But, I think I have a single bug there that ONLY affects me.
Verity Goodnight: the hud sprays water on you and then you get rusty?
NeoBokrug Elytis: ANd yeah, the Healing Masheens got a very tiny update, so the BV put in is put into smaller heals every second, rather than every 5 seconds.
NeoBokrug Elytis: That way you get your full BV worth of heal.
Dassina Andel: You can actually watch your Health meter move now!
NeoBokrug Elytis: And they’re supposed to cure classic radiation.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oh, nice! Sometimes it used to eat one of those healing bursts….
Candide LeMay: and the plus signs no longer attack you
Dassina Andel: Yeah, both times I’ve been irradiated last night, Masheen healed it witht he first micro-heal
NeoBokrug Elytis: There was a bug with that, but I think that bug only affects me — but I still need to make changes to the HUD for that.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Okay cool. To save processing, the radiation heal is NOT every tick.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Nice
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): will these bugs be sugar coated and wait for us in the candy masheen?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Beetle Brittle already exists! :D
Dassina Andel: Dammit, beat me to it
NeoBokrug Elytis: I still have to make changes I think. But those changes probably won’t happen UNTIL the Halloween quest is done.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Unless I need them as part of the halloween quest, but I doubt I will.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I also spent a couple days experimenting with just making a MOVEMENT override — not an animation override, but one for how your avatar moves. I am kind of tired of having the HUD fight normal SL and augmented SL movement. And if I am going to be doing all that extra processing anyway, I may as well see what I could do.
Storm Thunders: You mean speed of walk/run and jump height/distance?
Sandling Honey: thx San :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: For the most part, I am able to emulate SL movement just fine physically. I’d say I am 95% there. There’s a few quirks — most notably was how regions handle locomotion animations. So it was causing issues. A jump wasn’t a jump it was more like, go up and then fall.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Hhaa yeah.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): “I throw you into the junkyard dirt”
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): will stuff like avatar size and or race modify speeks and jump hights maybe?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I may have to scrap it, just for those reasons though ~ however I could still use it for special interactions.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’s okay if we throw YOU into it, though, Tay – you’ll miss it! :V
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): :D
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): not that i would like to chase a dassina that can jump even higher. but you know what i mean
Dassina Andel: >.>
Dassina Andel: <.<
Cavello Zeplin: ^.^
NeoBokrug Elytis: I have spent a lot of time thinking about the halloween quest, and I (we) have a good idea what we want this year. I started working on code earlier in the week, so I have a series of skeleton scripts getting their flesh.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oooooo….
NeoBokrug Elytis: Time for questions and comments.
NeoBokrug Elytis reads back
Dassina Andel: The question more than a few of us want answered, I know… when’s WL: Pumpkin start showing up? :3
NeoBokrug Elytis: >> (Ccindy Pfeffer): will stuff like avatar size and or race modify speeks and jump hights maybe?
NeoBokrug Elytis: No but, there will be other factors that size plays with the updated system. Mostly a limit to what kind of weapons you can wield.
Verity Goodnight: treat dispenser time is just 31st Oct and 1st Nov right?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I had a question related to last month’s discussion about V2 changes and item trades: how will that affect scrit? Will it transfer over, convert at a different rate, or will we have to spend it before the update?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Dass: The 15th I think is whan pumpkins traditionally start to spawn.
Dassina Andel: \o/
NeoBokrug Elytis: Verity: I am going to change that script probably tonight to include the 30th.
Verity Goodnight: cool beans
NeoBokrug Elytis: So Oct. 30th to Nov. 1st
Dassina Andel: Does the treat thing work with WL items?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes
Dassina Andel: Ooooh.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Is there a way for that trick-or-treating script to also tell us who clicked the dispenser, and/or what they got?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I was curious about that last year. :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: Apo: All items, regardless of what they are will be “weighed” against the supposed new changes. Most things will at the very least be 2 to 1 exchange. Others will be more.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I was thinking about that option Apo, I will see what changes I can add in, but — not everyone wants to be spammed to death.
Aposiopesis Fullstop nods!
NeoBokrug Elytis: I know the Trick-or-Treat script isn’t really a game thing, but since people can use it to dispense game items, it counts. ;)
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): I’m curious if anyone comes by my parcels.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And it’s a fun “game” of sorts.
BlackWidow Sinister: Drifter you can get a visitor counter
Dassina Andel: Where do we get this script again?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Tell you what, I will work on it tonight for sure. If you folks have suggestions let me know now.
NeoBokrug Elytis: At the tier pay area.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But wait for now, since I am going to update it.
NeoBokrug Elytis: So far: suggestions are: Notifications when people click.
Dassina Andel: I’ll 2nd the notification of who gets what
BlackWidow Sinister: Can it blow up and kill you like the crates do???
NeoBokrug Elytis: No
BlackWidow Sinister: sob
Storm Thunders: maybe with an on off switch like, set the vendor descript to CHAT?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Please elaborate storm.
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): I know I get visitors at the satellite station sometimes because I find them in there sometimes, just standing silently.
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): Didn’t mean to write sometimes twice
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): could it write down in a NC in the Object? les spamy and ppl can look it up if they are curious
Storm Thunders: if the obj description of the vendor has say “CHAT” in it, then do a thing
Goat the Devil (immortan.doge): ONE OF US ONE OF US
Storm Thunders: I’ll do that sometimes with DEBUG
NeoBokrug Elytis: You cannot write to notecards with scripts Cc
NeoBokrug Elytis: You get IMs, or nothing.
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): <– noob
NeoBokrug Elytis: I can probably make a simple notecard config. I will have to look at the script again for sure. Last year was kind of a I SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE THIS RIGHT NOW, sort of thing.
NeoBokrug Elytis: These day object description config is a lot less overhead, especially for just a few options. :)
Dassina Andel: Could it work like Tier notifications?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Dass: No
Keiratilia: the end is near
Keiratilia: I can’t say more
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other suggestions?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oh – would the movement system you’re working on also give some updates to swimming, by chance?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But again, not thrilled with the movement system. :C
Aposiopesis Fullstop: (Sorry to jump away from the trick-or-treat script discussion there.)
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions about game related things?
Candide LeMay: spider still broken?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes.
BlackWidow Sinister: I was going to ask
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): just add a flopping fish animation when walking into the water with the hud
Vikki Placebo: Just wondering – is part of the idea of the movement system to do like ‘on rails’ movements/animations?
NeoBokrug Elytis: There’s two goals with the movement system
Dassina Andel: DoT changes, at least radiation… are a lot more deadly. I forsee a lot more Healing Masheen usage.
Dassina Andel: I like it. ❤
BlackWidow Sinister: I think that since Rustmouth has not been active for a LONG LONG time that Henry should not give out clues to making it. It’s a waste of good papers.
NeoBokrug Elytis: The first is to make sure that no matter what you don’t really have that Second Life high parkour jump. The second is to bring back slow or speedup effects, so I can do fun things with DRUGS or enemies.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: DRUGS!?!?!
Storm Thunders: He wasn’t around last wave of rustmouth was he? That’s … very sus.
Vikki Placebo: Ahhhh, i seee!
Dassina Andel: All the Bunrt Cappies and Omega Cones…
Sandling Honey: My music really has been getting to the poor tinman
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the old DoTs got their bite back (except for radiation). They weren’t compounding like they used to.
BlackWidow Sinister: He gave me green sludge yesterday.
Dassina Andel: Poison, AND Radiation on a Crate Task is fucking deadly.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Blackwidow, maybe. But I still want to re-use those items.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): WL: Drugs
Sandling Honey: Recreational use only
BlackWidow Sinister: Ok, well, I think it’s best to use resources for things actually in the game. Thanks
NeoBokrug Elytis: A lot of recipes are “dead ends”, so I think it’s fine. You consolidate things to higher BV things for traders or whatever.
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): it is in the game. you can put cure in the stew for lots of food
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Just because you don’t have a reason to use it doesn’t make it stop being a game item.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: The first version of the game had entire types of scrap that weren’t used in any recipes.
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer) waves fist at cannon barrel
NeoBokrug Elytis: The people who know the Pistons recipe are mad at me.
Sandling Honey: <.<
Dassina Andel makes angry manimal noises
Candide LeMay: eh?
Candide LeMay: why
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions about game things?
L y d a (flyzephyrr): That’s when they become collectible.
Candide LeMay: i haven’t tried making pistons in a while. did something change?
NeoBokrug Elytis: No.
Dassina Andel: Hence, the Stor-Y Soc full of the old crap
The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): if i remember correctly, 3 pieces of “Piston” salvage just made….”Pistons”
Candide LeMay: yesh
NeoBokrug Elytis: :O
Dassina Andel: Way to go, Digger. :P
BlackWidow Sinister: And remember the Rustmouth motto. “If you get it, be a pal and share!!!”
Candide LeMay: now everyone can be mad at neo \o/
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): spoiler
L y d a (flyzephyrr): oof
The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): i’m egalitarian like that
NeoBokrug Elytis: Remind me to shackle you to your desk until halloween content is done. :)
Sandling Honey: Three barrel couches made a Barrel Restaurant
The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): lol
Dassina Andel: Do we now have the first “dumb” public recipe?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Last opportunity for game questions
Dassina Andel: Because, it is dumb. >.>
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Sandusky owes us another pie now.
Storm Thunders: I want me a barrel of fries and a barrelburger!
The Digger (sandusky.kayvon): Pistons Pie
Dassina Andel: The scecret of the WL: Piston is still safe.
Storm Thunders: Pist on, pist off!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): piss ton? thats like a shit load right?
 NeoBokrug Elytis: Okay! Time for an open floor about role play & events!
Vikki Placebo: Hehehe


NeoBokrug Elytis: After that, Warzone will be in The Great Fissure
Dassina Andel: Hell yeah, Great Fissure War Zone. :3
L y d a (flyzephyrr): I can already see my lag yeeting me into the abyss.
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): fissure is not junkyard
Aposiopesis Fullstop: The annual Halloween bash, TRIGGER TREAT, is happening again on Saturday, October 30! If you want to DJ or otherwise emit entertainment, lemme know! :D
Storm Thunders: all that scripted movement talk, Neo just wants to yeet us!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Man, weapons with knockback would be interesting, though…
Verity Goodnight: WL: Yeet-a-pult
Storm Thunders laughs
L y d a (flyzephyrr): Pls appoint pig as the new local bacon dealer
RM Beedit (rmarie.beedit): WL: Trebuchet
NeoBokrug Elytis: If I wanted to YEET you, I would script up a thin that would foce you to sit on an object that I ‘carried” above my head until I “threw” you.
Storm Thunders: ha!
Goat the Devil (immortan.doge): Remember kids, Neo knows thunderbolt attack.
Goat the Devil (immortan.doge): He showed me.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): Pls do that and sell on MP so I can throw people
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’m still looking to continue the Faith In Ruins series about our various homegrown in-character religions! So if you’ve got one for your character, and you want to spread the good word, also lemme know!
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): griefer. will ban you
NeoBokrug Elytis: A Grid Scope Experience is a dangerous temptation. Be thankful I have 0.0001% restraint above the threshold of evil.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): Neo becomes “Ride the Lighting” album cover
L y d a (flyzephyrr): We’ll axniously wait until that levy breaks.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): anxiously*
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): lightning is nothing compared to radiation drive
Storm Thunders passes Neo a dozen evil laugh gestures
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Very true, Ccindy…
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): and with how radiation is now .. ohh so painful
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): so rad
Verity Goodnight: lol
Vikki Placebo: :)
Dassina Andel: Do you want Brominites to come back? Because this is how you get Brominites
NeoBokrug Elytis: Thanks for the tunes Sandling!
Beatrix (beatrix.washborne) laughs
Sandling Honey: Most welcome! :D
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): yes no
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha!
The Mutant Witch of the Wastes (ccindy.pfeffer): redeyes will be ok now if they stay flying rippers
Sandling Honey: Thx VikkI! :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh, I wanted to let folks know about this if they forgot:
Vikki Placebo: Thanks for the musics, Sandling!
NeoBokrug Elytis:
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Yessss. Moooooar…
Sandling Honey: woooooo!
L y d a (flyzephyrr): neat!
Beatrix (beatrix.washborne): I need to add this one too o.O
Dassina Andel: Don’t forget Fistwrap Brawling tomorrow
Dassina Andel: Not sure if I’ll be able to make it though.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Argh, I gotta miss it tomorrow. :c
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Player characters, cool!
NeoBokrug Elytis: More glory for others!
Aposiopesis Fullstop shakes an angry fist at overtime.
Cavello Zeplin: Yesh! every sunday 12PM slt, smacking your friends in the face with fistwraps
Dassina Andel: The Gold Bottlecap is pretty sweet, though.
L y d a (flyzephyrr): It’s not about winning, just about how well you take the hits
Beatrix (beatrix.washborne): add to the community collection of teeth
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
Sandling Honey: Allllriiiighty then
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Thanks for the sounds, Sandling! :D
Beatrix (beatrix.washborne): \o/ Applause! \o/
Storm Thunders cheers!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Thanks for coming everyone!
Sandling Honey: :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: I hope I see most of you at Trigger Treat!
NeoBokrug Elytis: War Zone time!