Below is a short summary of the latest Community Meeting, followed by its chat logs – which have been gently edited for formatting, to put questions and answers in bold for easy skimming, and to omit greetings and farewells and other such asides. Meetings are hosted by Estate owner NeoBokrug Elytis at 2:00 pm on the first Saturday of every month at The Potato Farm in The Wastelands, and the discussion is typically divided into three main topics: Estate, Game, and Roleplay & Events. Everyone is welcome to attend!
➳ This was an extra-long two-hour Community Meeting to discuss some recent and upcoming changes, and to discuss some possible new approaches to land and events promotion.
➳ It didn’t follow the typical Estate, Game, Rolepay & Events format as a result.
➳ Occupancy went down drastically in the past month, though the Estate still operates at a profit.
➳ Potential causes include the rising cost of living, longer work hours reducing free time for SL, more people going out for “post-covid” activities, and current events making a post-apocalypse feel less fantastic and escapist.
➳ The start of summer also usually correlates to finals and the start of summer jobs for students, increased childcare responsibilities for visitors and residents who are parents, and warmer weather and more outdoor activities for all.
➳ Some people had to move to smaller plots or leave after last month’s tier increase.
➳ The bot now sends tier reminders through IM instead of through local chat, and this seems to be more effective so far.
➳ Neo is working on an updated tier auto-pay mailbox with more features, but this is lower priority.
➳ Neo examined other themed estates and found that, even with the tier increase, The Wastelands’ pricing is still competitive (and sometimes slightly cheaper.)
➳ Most other estates have inworld Land Stores, so he’s working on creating one.
➳ Based on that research, and discussions with experts in SL marketing, he’s also shortened the text on the landing parcels to add keywords and to make the website URL appear in the text.
➳ This should help The Wastelands get higher on SL search results for “wastelands,” and also keep visitors from mistaking us for the once-shuttered “adult dark roleplaying” estate City of Lost Angels, whose new post-apocalyptic reboot has a region called “Lost Wastelands.”
➳ Neo made it clear that The Wastelands will never be an Adult region.
➳ We could try to create more machinimas, music videos, or other short videos to promote The Wastelands.
➳ Neo is also making adjustments to the unowned land in the four main regions to create some smaller (and therefore cheaper) parcels. Look for them starting this week!
➳ Suggesting more outreach to other roleplay communities for one-off encounters, or “web ring” style teleports.
➳ Discussing the possibility of sponsoring more shopping events.
➳ Considering a wider promotion of Promageddon, since it’s a more newcomer-friendly conceit.
➳ Event attendance has been tepid, likely for the same reasons as lower occupancy.
➳ There have been concerns that the Discord event announcements aren’t properly notifying people about events.
➳ Looking into additional ways to give notices:
☞ An inworld poster at each region’s landing point showing today’s events and the weekly schedule
☞ An inworld Subsicribe-O-Matic style object or bot that sends local chat notices or IMs.
☞ Adding the Sesh bot to the Discord server to allow more (and more-visible) notices.
➳ Discussing how to make the Ruin Nation group easier to join, possibly with a poster and an inworld captcha.
➳ Maintaining the current methods of Event notices as well:
☞ Weekly Group Notices to The Wastelands and Ruin Nation groups, and group chats at the start of events
☞ Weekly and daily Group Notices to The N
☞ Discord notices weekly in the #announcements channel and through the Events listings.
➳ A reminder that Group Notices you receive offline are no longer sent to your email by default! Opt in on your Accounts page at https://accounts.secondlife.com/change_email/
➳ Linden Lab has launched a new region type, the Event Region, which would allow up to 175 avatars, 30k prims, and a 20% improvement on script times. However, even its introductory price point of $599/mo is not a good value for The Wastelands, to say nothing of the $999/mo actual price.
➳ The new parcel and land store efforts take precedence, but work continues on the Northgate Community Gateway.
➳ The Wastelands Public Works program is still accepting volunteers to help create the buildings, props, and other assets!
➳ There’s still a plan to add a roleplay wing to the Northgate tutorials.
➳ Look up: we have a new broken moon – with moon phases – courtesy of Anne Cloud!
➳ Neo had considered shuttering it, but the Patreon is continuing, for those who want to support The Wastelands without or in addition to land ownership.
➳ Neo started working on a new craftable salvage item around Easter, but has not had time to finish it yet.
➳ Linden Lab is working on improvements to EEP, but they still may not do the things Neo hopes it will do; he may have to make an opt-in attachment instead.
ROLEPLAY & EVENTS:
➳ Get out your filthiest formalwear: PROMAGEDDON, The Wastelands’ Prom, will take place on Saturday, May 28! If you’d like to DJ, contact Apo ASAP with your availability.
➳ A new tribe of Tusks has taken residence on the north road of The Wastelands proper, seemingly led by one going by Boghoss ((Hivejunker Resident))
➳ When Doktor Pileus led the Red Parade up the High Mesa, Doktor Aeg was not exactly welcoming – and implied he’s out to cure more than just Rustmouth…
➳ Thank you to all the revenant revelers of the Red Revival in April, and to all the performers who helped it all happen!
➳ If Anne is amenable, the Beetle Racing track may be brought back to a skybox in Burnt Oak.
➳ Want to host an event of your own, but aren’t sure how to get it going? Contact Neo or Apo for some suggestions!
➳ Reminder: The roleplay character template has been added to the Wiki – add yours today!
Weekly Event Summary:
(All Times SLT)
– Storytime with Wasteland Drifter – 2pm
– Gomi’s Garbo Cinematic Expulsion – 5pm
– Mutant Drum Circle – 6pm
– Film Night with Wasteland Drifter – 5pm
– Lillie’s Amuse Bouche – 5pm (temporary hiatus)
– Manimal Madness (née Escape The Miasma! with Soda Foxen) – 6pm (temporary hiatus) – New Event! HOSTILE BROADCAST – a listening party for influential, interesting, or offbeat albums – 7pm.
– Unstructured Playtime w/ Dia – 5pm
– Booze & Blather [RP Event] – 6pm
– Sandling’s Evening Madness – 1pm
– Fight Night – 3pm- Apo’s Audio Atrocities – 5pm
First Saturday: Community Meeting – 2pm
Second Saturday: Barrelhead Bazaar [RP Event] – 11am
Third Saturday: Wasted Raiders’ Raid – Noon
Fourth Saturday: Second Second Saturday Skull Ball – 2pm
Want to host an event? Let Neo know the event details by Wednesday night and he’ll add it to the weekly group announcements, Discord announcement, and Plurk feed!
If you want to keep in touch with other Wastelanders when you can’t be inworld, our Discord server is now public!
I. THE ESTATE
NeoBokrug Elytis: Good afternoon everyone. Thanks for showin’ up. Thank you Sandling for providing the music. As per the unusual — we’re ditching the usual this month with a two hour long community meeting. There typically are three primary topics, but since everything will probably be intermingling this month, we’re going to have a sort of organic discussion peppered with things I bring up.
Boghoss (hivejunker): yup, still feesh, many sad
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): did you put together your pig yet, rax?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I am going to try to keep things contained in sections — and we’re going to start with general estate and land things.
Rax Stooge: yar I did, are we having a porcine party?
Boghoss (hivejunker) rereads organic a few times
NeoBokrug Elytis: Staying in theme with most community meetings, I’ll talk about occupancy first.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): just this little spot here, us piggies throwing it down by swinging our meats
NeoBokrug Elytis: Which has completely cratered this month. It’s been a slow drain since Giftmas, but this past month was particularly bad.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): ::(
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :(
NeoBokrug Elytis: Which made me slam on the brakes, and sort of start looking at things.
NeoBokrug Elytis: It’s kind of the perfect storm of a collection of issues at the moment.
Boghoss (hivejunker): my delight at seeing rax pig is tempered by sad news
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): aww, also rax carrying the sausage maker is great
Rax Stooge: people are delicious!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): already a complex pig
NeoBokrug Elytis: First being … just general real-life pressures. And I kind of wanted to ask folks here, if that’s keeping them from hanging out here more often — given what the estate represents and the current real world climate of things?
Rax Stooge: i keep trying to lure people here but they always copme for like a month then vanish
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NeoBokrug Elytis: I know most of you are here often, but if you know of friends staying out of SL more often, I am interested in hearing the reasons. That way I can sort of work on seeing if it’s something I could make better.
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): RL is the thing keeping me away, for sure.
Boghoss (hivejunker): I usua;;y work in reverse to the general public, so my increased presence may suggest you’re correct
Rax Stooge: such is the nature of second life
Rax Stooge: my RL has been super busy lately as well
Rax Stooge: post covid lockdowns has meat space more busy than ever
Rax Stooge: IMHO
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): It is difficult to pin point it, but, i’ve noticed a few of my regular friends not being so regular in the last few months
NeoBokrug Elytis: That makes sense.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Leslie just works fucked up shifts — she’s cook. And I’ve just been having health things that’ve made me a bit “meh”
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I don’t think it’s the theme – and there’s nothing we could or should do about it if it were. I think it’s more just… everything costs more, and people have to pick up new side-hustles or cut their budgets for fun things.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, having a lot of people say they’re working more makes me feel a bit better. I typically am the one to assume it’s something I am doing that’s keeping people out. I do try to reassure myself that people are just busy, but my brain won’t believe it.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I man, not good that everyone is working more.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But good that it’s not “Post apocalypse makes me depressed now”
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I mean, even if that were part of it – what would you reasonably do about that?
Beezle (beezle.warburton): oh, noes, even if I don’t show up much I still keep my tier going :)
Verity Goodnight: I know Chav isn’t in the mood to be around people much at the moment
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa) can relate to that feeling of brain not listening to itself Neo
Verity Goodnight: (but is doing ok in RL)
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That’s good; I’ve been wondering about her!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, which brings me to the tier increase. I saw a few people tier down, and others leave after the increase. WHICH i can understand. And I wish I didn’t have to bump tier up — but I’ve never done anything to account for inflation over 15 years, and if my costs go up, I at the very least have to apply that change to the costs.
Boghoss (hivejunker): i dont think anyone would dispute your needs or efforts to shelter the community from them
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I’ve mostly been busy doing some projects on the side, or my moods swings into playing something else instead of being on SL, plus work haha
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, but I want to remain competitive.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): everything is costng more, why I haven’t glommed that second parcel I want >_<
NeoBokrug Elytis: I spend a few days last week just visiting other themed estates, and even after the tier bump I saw that we were at price, or cheaper than other places.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And just like you folks, I have had to increasingly chase down work — which normally would be contract work in SL — but that seems anemic too. So I have side-gigs myself that aren’t in SL. I feel like a lot of my time is just wasted on “getting” work.
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): yep
NeoBokrug Elytis: I also finally bent the knee.
Sandling Honey: Same.. I made a Facebook account..
NeoBokrug Elytis: I gave in to applying keywords to our landing parcels, and a few classified ads I run.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Keeeeywwooooorddssss…. D:
Verity Goodnight: ohhh weird moment when I thought you might have proposed to a wealthy widow
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :O
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): haha Verity
NeoBokrug Elytis: So our old nice parcel descriptors have been truncated, and let me tell you. It is PAINFUL. But I talked to several people who KNOW SL marketing and such.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I was thinking that too xD
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Which brings me to the reason why I did that; and before I start.
NeoBokrug Elytis: 1) I want you all to doubt what I say, and critically thing about what I am saying because — this is some tin foil hat shit I am about to say
NeoBokrug Elytis: 2) If I am wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
NeoBokrug Elytis: 3) And take what I am about to say with a grain of salt.
Boghoss (hivejunker): is it about the bolts on my tire pauldron looking like nipples? because i am aware they look like nipples
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): oh boy~
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Pfft :p
NeoBokrug Elytis: I started to tidy up our keywords and “marketing” in SL because there’s a “Lost Wastelands” now. Which used to be City of Lost Angels — and was ressurcted recently.
Rax Stooge: Gross
NeoBokrug Elytis: And I learned that when you first searched for Wastelands, we weren’t in the top spots.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Ughh!
Beezle (beezle.warburton): City of Lagged Angels is back-ish?
NeoBokrug Elytis: THey were and are a very large old roleplaying estate, and I gotta tip my hat for them.
NeoBokrug Elytis: So we had our Spotlight by Linden Lab in January. ANd according to COLA blog, they started working on a new apocalyptic region 6 days after that
NeoBokrug Elytis: And they came live in march.
NeoBokrug Elytis: With a new story or something, all about the apocalypse.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): the heck!
Beezle (beezle.warburton): hmm.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I think it’s too coincidental.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Well, I hope you don’t compete by allowing Lewd o.O
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It really COULD be a coincidence; there’ve been no end of other post-apocalypses that have started (and typically floundered within a few months.)
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I’d agree, something smells fishey there… and it’s not Rax this time!
NeoBokrug Elytis: But, being “Lost Wastelands”, and sucking up searches for Wastelands doesn’t sit right with me. I don’t own a trademark on it and no one should., But I think that’s shady riding out coattails.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Yeah.
Boghoss (hivejunker): it’s good they chose just after the wastelands was spotlighted to minimise the chance of them getting spotlighted.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’d make more sense to keep their original branding, you’d think.
NeoBokrug Elytis: So that’s a pressure I think that’s affecting the estate and people finding us.
NeoBokrug Elytis: We had people showing up here asking “Isn’t this COLA?” ANd I was like… no?
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa) nods reluctantly
NeoBokrug Elytis: So I guess it works both ways.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): o.O
NeoBokrug Elytis: But they are far more popular and have still opted for laggy builds.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hmm
Aposiopesis Fullstop: From what I’ve gathered, they allow adult stuff and all sorts of magic, so there may not be as much crossover as we might think.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I might go take a look at this COLA and maybe bring back a few trophies
Boghoss (hivejunker): sandline this breakdown coming is the best
NeoBokrug Elytis: Taxes, real world pressures, inworld pressures and…
Beezle (beezle.warburton): COLA’s been around a long time and there’ll people jumping on their new thing that miss the old. I never went there becuase I could barely walk through the lag and not into the RAPE./CAPTURE/SEXYTIMES rp
NeoBokrug Elytis: Right. It’s adult post-apocalypse.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I will never bend the knee and go adult. That’s not who we are.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): x_x
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Plus ours is really strong with the community, so who to say they might even as long?
Sandling Honey: Wait, I’m no at COLA right now?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: And if folks like THAT kind of filth more than just the post-apocalyptic filth, I guess it’s good they have somewhere to go for that?
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): lo
Boghoss (hivejunker): who can even as long!?
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): even last as long* sorry
Verity Goodnight: We’re the friendliest post-apoc community in SL
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): my fingers being dumb!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Right, we’re really strong. But this past month it feels bad with occupancy being the lowest ever, and all the other pressures. So it’s not something I can avoid.
Boghoss (hivejunker): i thought it was funny, WL being 15 and all
NeoBokrug Elytis: So I am trying to take care of the simplest low hanging fruit things I can improve upon.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And I am open to all suggestions.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Bring back topless strippers and we’re set
NeoBokrug Elytis: Parcel updates, and classifieds were my quick fix.
Sandling Honey: .. a monthly pin-up Calendar of Neo
NeoBokrug Elytis: I never got rid of them. :P
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :D
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Oh ok :)
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I want that calendar
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Moderate does allow for shirtlessness!
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): The Spotlight video seemed to drive some traffic here, can there be more of that?
Beezle (beezle.warburton): More RP events would be a suggestion.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :o
NeoBokrug Elytis: I would not be opposed to another video, I actually thought about contacting all the people who made audio for Draxtor, and putting together our own thing.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Yeah!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Because I still have it all, and he scrapped that.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That could be very cool.
Verity Goodnight: Video would be nice
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I was not in that video so… yeah >3>
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Oood I’d like to see that
NeoBokrug Elytis: There’s also the issue with the group changes LL made earlier in the year, where people have to opt-in to notices.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And it defaults to off for everyone.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): aww crap
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Oh is it?
Beezle (beezle.warburton): dafuq
Cody Tebaldi (dakota.tebaldi): Oh wow I didn’t even notice that
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes, well groupt o email I think
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Does it happen to those new to the group?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yes
Verity Goodnight: yeah, and the opt-in was a bit wonky for me at the beginning
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I see
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Yuuuuup. It doesn’t go to email by default anymore.
NeoBokrug Elytis: https://accounts.secondlife.com/change_email/
NeoBokrug Elytis: “I would like to receive offline Group Notices as email. ” defaults to unchecked
NeoBokrug Elytis: So I think some folks are missing group notices about events.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: And I know that Gmail keeps marking mine as Spam no matter how often I try to filter it to allow them.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I kind of want to talk about that a little more in a minute — but first I want to continue with land things.
NeoBokrug Elytis: The BOT is sending tier reminders instead of an inworld object — and that actually seems a LOT better for folks. I haven’t had to remind anyone in a long time about tier.
NeoBokrug Elytis: That could also be because of the occupancy issues too, idk
NeoBokrug Elytis: While I was searching other themed communities about their tier rates; I noticed almost all of them have an inworld land store.
NeoBokrug Elytis: We do not. So that’s pretty high on my priority list of things to work on.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Yeah, with all the group notices and everything from SL, it tends to trigger anti-spam, I quit letting Gmail handle spam and let Thunderbird do it — much better job.
Boghoss (hivejunker): didnt wl used to have one of those?
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): Land Store would be good
NeoBokrug Elytis: I think that was only for opening regions Boghoss
Boghoss (hivejunker): kk
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I remember the little floating blue house icon over The Bunker. :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: The website is nice, but that is outside of SL, and opening a web browser is more clicks.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: And I still encounter some folks who can’t open a browser tab and SL at the same time.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I am still kind of wracking my brain on how to automate a lot of that. It’s going to take some serious work that I honestly don’t want to do.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But, it’ll get done eventually.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): definitely need some sort of store in world for land info and rent options… people will realize this sooner than later and hopefully inspire to rent
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah. I have been chewing on that much of this week.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Here’s an odd question…
NeoBokrug Elytis: I also have an updated tier-auto-pay mailbox in the works, with a few new features an options. But that’ll come after the land store at the earliest.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Do you think it might have anything to do with the parcel decorator? I love it, and I think it’s great to have something already there for folks to live in if they don’t want to build, and to show off the amazing things people make! I do also like the subtlety of our Land For Sale signs, versus the fullbright placard horrors I see in other places. But when a plot was for sale before, and there was bare sand (or mud) there, it was obvious that it was unowned and available.
Boghoss (hivejunker): or dear, that is a terrible observation but it’s probaby right isnt it
Aposiopesis Fullstop: But I’m wondering if visiting wandering folk somehow aren’t aware that the land is even rentable.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Not really, at least I don’t think so. The signs are supposed to be subtle. Other estates don’t even advertise on parcels because they have land stores.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Gotcha. I absolutely think an inworld land store is a good idea!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Yeah, sounds doable!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: And it gives folks somewhere to actually BRING people. :D
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Tempt tempt lure.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): yes!
II. THE GAME
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah. So for now I my focus is both Northgate and a Land store. I started working on a new salvage item around easter, but… just didn’t have the time to finish it.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: !
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): is it a sausage roll? :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: I do want to, and I need a solid day for it. But time is not something I have anymore.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Like, not a craftable thing, but an actual new thing in the spawn?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Craftable thing. :P
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Ahhh.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Worth it tho.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :D
Boghoss (hivejunker): i think northgate and landstore will be big landmarks for commercial viability
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): WL: Sausage Roll *drools*
Cody Tebaldi (dakota.tebaldi): Nommm
Rax Stooge: I got them on my back!
Verity Goodnight: Time to build WL: Greggs
III. THE ROLEPLAY & EVENTS
NeoBokrug Elytis: So I think those are all the pressures the estate is facing right now. It is very hard for me to manage them, and if you folks have ANY ideas I wouldn’t be opposed to hearing them out.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hahaha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: I mean, we’ve all probably dragged our friends here.
Boghoss (hivejunker): not me, i dont have friends
NeoBokrug Elytis: I am going full tilt on the marketing I know of.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): indeed
Verity Goodnight: time to make new friends and bring the new friends here
Rax Stooge: I keep trying!
Verity Goodnight: (but not in a too culty way)
Cody Tebaldi (dakota.tebaldi): ONE OF US
Aposiopesis Fullstop: We can go hard on the promoting of Promageddon, maybe? That’s a pretty newfolk-friendly thing: gets them the familiar dance-party thing of elsewhere, but our own particular flavor of weird?
Verity Goodnight: (or maybe fully in a culty way???)
Rax Stooge: I think we should start a cult
Rax Stooge: cults catch on they are hip
Rax Stooge: a porcine cult
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hehe
Verity Goodnight: Pig cult to rival Church of the Holy Floating Crate yesss
Candide LeMay: prime cult
NeoBokrug Elytis: We can, but I don’t know where to even start with that.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I am always up for more cults. And about writing them up in the Press.
Rax Stooge: Yess
Aposiopesis Fullstop: We have so many, and they are so rad.
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): How about contacting the Star Trek RPers, or other suitable groups, for some crossover RP events?
Verity Goodnight: or even just invite them to enjoy Promageddon
Rax Stooge: those star trek folks are really nice
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha that sounds fun.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Hmm, sponsors maybe?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That’s the thing – we’d have to suspend a lot of disbelief to have our characters interact with them.
Rax Stooge: Maybe thats what we need to do
NeoBokrug Elytis: Part of Northgate is going to show off other themed places. I wanted to have one-way “rifts” to them there.
Verity Goodnight: I wonder if they have a prime directive
Beezle (beezle.warburton): or be part of a portal system?
Candide LeMay: or at least a prim directive
NeoBokrug Elytis: Whether or not they fit canonically, they fit for “reasons”
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): mmh, that’s what we are missing, a connected hive mind with other rp places
Verity Goodnight: portal ringgg
NeoBokrug Elytis: I think I did mention I wanted to use my extra experience to have a “web ring” of places to visit in SL. Specifically thematic communities.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): that said about portals… I have one at my swamp home
Boghoss (hivejunker): like suff and nexus prime? can that be a thing please father time?
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): a quick hop from the swamp to the JY…
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): father time xD
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): oh like posters of the wl to visit it?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Heh, I have those already.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): we have that now :)
NeoBokrug Elytis: We’re friends with a few event runners.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And that brings in people occasionally.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): more posters though!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): oh ok! it’s how I joined the wls eons ago because of the poster to wl
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): maybe a free t-shirt?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Speaking of posters. I want to talk about the regular events here (I promise it relates)
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Ugh, honestly, that also could be part of it in a way – good luck giving a “free t-shirt” with the ten million different mesh bodies out there now.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): “went to the wastelands and all I got was this lousy piece of skin”
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): >o<
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’s harder and harder for folks to find post-apocalyptic gear that suits their avatar.
Verity Goodnight: layers & an omega applier?
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Easier with BOM and stuff now, but yeah
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Yeah, BOM has been an absolute godsend.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): it’s sad but true Apo
NeoBokrug Elytis: Much like occupancy, event participation is and has been pretty MEH for a few months. Understandably, everyone is already working their ass off in meatspace to keep shit together.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And compounted with the group notice thing, and discord not being fucking great.
Cody Tebaldi (dakota.tebaldi): FWIW Discord has always been a little off-again, on-again with the notices, in my experience.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Can we have a bot that IMs people when there’s an event? I wanted to make something like that once – it was going to be the disembodied voice of PanPot shouting at people. :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: I wanted to work in an inworld poster template that I could script up, and have spawn the events on a billboard at each landing point. It is arguably a complex project — but not impossible. Maybe another burden on folks who run events. The idea is to make it better than the garbage event boards with just a wall of text.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And yeah discord has been problematic; but I wanted to see what I could do to let people know INWORLD before I tackl the discord issues.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Would a mesh template that has dates on different faces be useful?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah beezle, I have a rather elaborate plan in my head, and would not be opposed to help — because I will really need it.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: So many events are recurring that it could be a set-it-and-forget it?
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Will work something up
Beezle (beezle.warburton): over this next week or so
NeoBokrug Elytis: Let me poke you about it directly — later beezle
NeoBokrug Elytis: Apo, initially no — but I want a system that is easy to edit
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Well that’s good that Beezle can help with that :)
NeoBokrug Elytis: I am also contemplating making my own subscribe-o-mattic like tool, to have the bot IM people for reasons.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I have specific requirements for the mesh posters, for scripting reasons.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Lillie has an event notifier – I’m not sure how it works – but it comes through as a Local Chat message. It’s unobtrusive, but pretty effective.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Ah, that’s probably what it is, Neo!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, I think that’s a lite version of subscribe-o-mattic.
NeoBokrug Elytis: So, I think if we can keep event notices inworld for sure — WITHOUT relying on groups — that also allows people to opt-in and out of receiving notices. That’s the way to go.
Verity Goodnight: yeahh opt in and opt out subscribo-wotsit would be good
NeoBokrug Elytis: Then, as an add — we can still have discord. And before I move on to that — does anyone want to see anything specific with an inworld group notice things?
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Other than them working consistently? :P
NeoBokrug Elytis: And are the group notices, and group chat good enough now as it is — or are they getting lost?
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): link to the event,
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I have an idea, but I think it’s…. too complicated.
NeoBokrug Elytis: What is it?
Kotcheff (ramson.rover): Have to leave soon and just had a question: Has occupancy fallen below break-even point? If so, by how much? Are specific regions at risk (e.g., the nearly empty North Yard)?
NeoBokrug Elytis: The Wastelands hasn’t ever been in the black.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Notices seems fine to me, they work and are there clearly to see.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I will cross that road when I need to regarding regions. It’s like picking the best child to kill so the others can survive.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): D:
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It might also be undesirable, thinking about it more. But people might like to have the option to customize when they get that reminder: morning of event, hour before event start, half-hour before event start, 15 minutes before, whatever.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): TBH, because they go out in multiple groups, the chances are slim of me not getting em.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: All of the above, if they’ve got a case of colander-brain like I sometimes do. :P
Kotcheff (ramson.rover): Ok. Thanks.
Verity Goodnight: Apo – the sesh discord bot does something like that
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Another suggestion — some places have a tip thing in the landing area.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Also. Neo. Could you please specify what you mean by ” The Wastelands hasn’t ever been in the black?” I never remember which is red and which is black.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Due to IM throttle limitations, the system is just going to probably send things out at peak concurrency for the NEXT DAYs worth of events. The system has to march on a slow pace.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh haha
Beezle (beezle.warburton): red is blood and black is bruises
NeoBokrug Elytis: Iasn’t ever been in the red, ALWAYS been in the black.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Please tell me which means debt and which means profit.
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): That’s much happier news.
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): Black is profit
Boghoss (hivejunker): red is debt, black is profit
Beezle (beezle.warburton): red bad, black good
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): black os good I think
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Thank you.
NeoBokrug Elytis: We’ve never run the regions in debt.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): ahh yes
NeoBokrug Elytis: Grofit.
NeoBokrug Elytis scrolls back
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Bebt
Beezle (beezle.warburton): is from old adding machines that printed negative in red. AFAIK.
Kotcheff (ramson.rover): Good to know.
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): Eighteenth rule of acquisition: A Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That’s what I thought, so I was VERY CONFUSED.
Boghoss (hivejunker): i thought that was a quip way of saying “i’m perpetually plowing money into the WL to try to keep it afloat Kotcheff”
Verity Goodnight: yes on the adding machine, that’s what the one I have at work does
NeoBokrug Elytis: THe estate may run lean, and the price it pays for low occupancy is my time to pay attention to it. I usually work harder doing other meatspace jobs.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Ahhh…that’s interesting Beezle
NeoBokrug Elytis: The better the estate does, the more time I can pay attention to it.
Verity Goodnight: like some weird flavour of tamagotchi
NeoBokrug Elytis: When it does exceptionally bad, my time is focused less on making fun stuff, and more on steering this big ship in the right direction. SO it’s a double whammy of less time, and the time I have being occupied with responsible things.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Have you considered expanding the rewards for the Patreon again, or was that too much work to keep up with? Is there anything anyone else could do to provide more rewards or more tiers?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’s not as good as, y’know, folks owning land directly and occupancy being solid – but any little bit helps?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I actually feel like I should shutter the patreon and tell people to spend that money on inworld tier. I simply just haven’t had the time to update that, and keep updates coming in here.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But people keep supporting despite my lack of updates.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I really do not recommend that; some people do not have the time or inclination to own land.
Boghoss (hivejunker): awwi just joined that! lol
Verity Goodnight: Keeping a tipjar patreon is what some creators I support have done
NeoBokrug Elytis: I am not going to shutter it just yet, but it’s a thought that rattles around in my head because I feel guilty, and all I am doing inworld is just trying to keep things going.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: There are people who want to support the Wastelands, but the price point of land ownership is higher than the lowest donation tier, and there are people who feel guilty if they own land and don’t come inworld or visit here often enough to “use it”.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I also thought about changing parcels sizes for the first time ever. It is A LOT OF WORK, but I think having a few smaller parcels would be nice.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): ^
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): That’s a good idea
Boghoss (hivejunker): agreed
Verity Goodnight: I support a lot of beekeeprs and like, I get nothing from them because I don’t even like to watch their videos but I like that they look after bees
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I can see that being a boon. Mesh is getting efficient enough that you can have a solid and well-decorated build with fewer prims than Ye Ole Primme Days.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: *Olde
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I might, fall for that… if you did that.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Do I look after you all like good bees?
Verity Goodnight: Yes
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha
Beezle (beezle.warburton): I’m a good Beez . . .
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Buzz buzz
Aposiopesis Fullstop: COVERED IN BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I have bee hives on my plot
Verity Goodnight: with the bonus of I like seeing the stuff that happens here :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha
NeoBokrug Elytis: Okay. Smaller parcels seems like a popular idea in general.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And with the recent tier hike, it’ll make some things more appealing.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): useful for prim junkies that don’t want to spring for a whole second plot >.>
Verity Goodnight: Yeah when I got my latest parcel, I didn’t need the whole area of the smallest parcel that was available
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): A range of optopns is always good
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): options
Candide LeMay: smaller than 512?
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hehe…
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Which regions might get ensmallenated? Or do you need more data before you can even say?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I kind of dread that kind of work —
NeoBokrug Elytis: Candide, it’s more of a prim allotment anymore.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But yes, some will be smaller than that
NeoBokrug Elytis: The four core.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Homesteads don’t allow for many avatars, and 10 owners per region is the max I will go to on that.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That makes sense!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Would parcel subdivision happen after an existing landowner leaves, then?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I’ll take inventory of what’s available — as candidates for BISECTION. ANd see if they have more space than others around them.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Or only on the ones currently vacant at the time the system’s made?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Maybe. Currently vacant is ideal.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Moving anyone is NOT good.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And all this would have to happen BEFORE the land store (which is the top most priority).
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Agreed, that’s what I was worrying about: I’d prefer to stay where I am and not end up having to relocate.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh, I don’t know if you saw LLs announcement of event regions and my saying “I’d think about it when they announce it”.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha, oh yeah…
NeoBokrug Elytis: $900 a month for 175 avatars on a region.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Very no.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): wow D;
NeoBokrug Elytis: 20% script boost. :P
Verity Goodnight: that’s wild
NeoBokrug Elytis: Really, the stats are not good. I’d rather have two regions that host more than a single event region, and have more total processing power.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But, I am glad LL is exploring it’s options.
Verity Goodnight: that’s for when the euromillions lottery win comes in and I change my mind about starting a Formula E team
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions regarding estate stuff? Did I miss anything?
Verity Goodnight: I still like the moon
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh, I meant to give updates on that
NeoBokrug Elytis: EEP is getting some work by LL, but I worry it may not be useful for us. This is mostly due to technical limitations of SL. An OPT-IN attachment May be the solution I go with in the end.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Next up, hyper-exclusive event regions. One person at a time. You get 30 minutes to shop and gloat about your exclusivity before it TPs you home and bans you from coming back. :P
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): ahh
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hahahaha
Verity Goodnight: Gacha regions, you pay $75 and it punts you into the region you didn’t want
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Given the inworld options of notifying people of regular events — would posters interest you, and would a subscribe-o-mattic like thing interest you?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Because groups are trash. :C
Verity Goodnight: I like subscribo-o-matic
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): yeah… why not
Verity Goodnight: it’d get me wherever I rezed
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’d be interested in posters and/or subscription notice thingies!
Boghoss (hivejunker): ditto
Aposiopesis Fullstop: (I am also just a sucker for a poster, obviously.)
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): same :D
Beezle (beezle.warburton): oh, a thought with the mesh poster — have it optionally give LM’s for each event
NeoBokrug Elytis: Followup: If we were to encourage the use of a subscribe-o-mattic like device — should we do away with group notices?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Very no.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): noooo
Verity Goodnight: the weekly events one is handy
Aposiopesis Fullstop: PLEASE give people all possible options to get information, more not less.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Okay.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Think about it this way:
Verity Goodnight: (even though yes I am also on plurk)
Aposiopesis Fullstop: You haven’t been inworld for a while, but event notices DO go to your email. And then they stop, because we stop doing them.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): mmmh
NeoBokrug Elytis: Should we be sending out notices right before them in chat? Is that annoying or useful?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That person is going to think events have stopped.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Useful
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Useful
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I really do think that actual NOTICES are useful, not just chats
NeoBokrug Elytis: >>> Unless you didn’t opt-in to group notices to email
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Right. But I’m still saying, no notices means that people who have Group Notices = Yes but Subscriber = No will think that Events or The Wastelands itself have stopped happening. :P
Verity Goodnight: the chat one is handy because discord either doesn’t do the thing with the pop out notif for me or does it when I am not looking at the screen
Verity Goodnight: I wonder if I DID something to discord :thinkyface:
Beezle (beezle.warburton): and the pop-outs for discord can be annoying o.O
NeoBokrug Elytis: Speaking of Discord, verity has suggested a bot for the server. Given that events are failing to pop-up for people, I kind of want to migrate from that.
Verity Goodnight: haha this is why I think I did something
NeoBokrug Elytis: Are the events working as they are for people here?
Aposiopesis Fullstop: But yes, group chats only go to the people who are inworld right at that instant; notices go to emails if you’re signed up and to those top-right chiclets regardless, so you can see information about a thing even if you log in after that chat went out.
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): Events on Discord are working well for me.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): working for me too
Boghoss (hivejunker): i do like the discord system, but that might be because im very new to discord
NeoBokrug Elytis: Like, I don’t want to brutally assault people with COME DO ALL THE THINGS.
NeoBokrug Elytis: mmm chat lag.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Here’s another thing, though, and I think it’s a big one, but I don’t know how to fix it because we established it for very good reasons.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: You only really get group notices if you own land, or if you join Ruin Nation, which you can only do through invite or through jumping the hurdles of the greeter bot.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: We HAD to clamp down on how people join Ruin Nation because we were getting spam and abusive bullshit for a while.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): Would need more moderators that can be up at various hours
Aposiopesis Fullstop: But I think it’s also affected peoples’ ability to get into the groups that will get them that information.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hmm
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): good point
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yah
Verity Goodnight: so like, a new Friends of Wastelands group for non-land, just vibes people?
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): FOW
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I don’t think a new group is needed; that’d just shuffle the spam-issues to that one.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): or subver the “N” one for that purpose
NeoBokrug Elytis: Right
Beezle (beezle.warburton): WL has a lot of groups o.O
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): it does
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It does – and that’s not a problem, I don’t think! We really only have the two official ones, Landowner and, as Verity put it, Vibes. :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: Since the telehubs are going to be retooled for the land store and the events wall, we should designate Ruin Nation as Roleplay and weekly events reminders, and The N as daily reminders
NeoBokrug Elytis: The Wastelands is specifically for land owners, and their perks
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :3
NeoBokrug Elytis: I can make it so you can “click to join” if we have a little sign for it.
The N Sign: Mutsy Kaligawa touched The N sign-up sign!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Yar, I’ve been doing the daily notices on The N and nobody’s told me to cram a sock in it yet. (Also, should I try to do those earlier, like the night before, instead of at the start of the events?)
NeoBokrug Elytis: Give them an inworld capcha to figure out, and the bot sends an invite.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): oooo
NeoBokrug Elytis: Can keep the groups private that way.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Oooh, that’s an idea!
Beezle (beezle.warburton): well, you could keep it simperish than a capcha — just a number code?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah
NeoBokrug Elytis: Or :
NeoBokrug Elytis: Just math problems
NeoBokrug Elytis: 2 + 2 = ?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Avoiding language still.
Boghoss (hivejunker): like: if your bank is in the red, that is: a) good b) bad ?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Enter a code, or solve a math problem
Beezle (beezle.warburton): I mainly say that because I already have number grid textures for you :P
Aposiopesis Fullstop: D:
NeoBokrug Elytis: Oh, I was just going to use llTextBox
NeoBokrug Elytis: Or llDialog
Beezle (beezle.warburton): ah, easier
NeoBokrug Elytis: Indeed.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Moving on to discord group things
NeoBokrug Elytis: I hate doing @everyone and @here, because I think it’s rude.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I don’t feel bad doing it once a week
NeoBokrug Elytis: And I think the events in Discord work well, when they work. But i have had a lot of folks tell me that it sometimes doesn’t work these past weeks.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): o.O
NeoBokrug Elytis: Which is why the bot idea seems interesting: https://sesh.fyi/
NeoBokrug Elytis: basically you give a reaction, and it will IM you when it’s time.
Verity Goodnight: or 10 minutes ahead of time
Aposiopesis Fullstop: That looks very nice.
Verity Goodnight: or an hour ahead of time
Verity Goodnight: or all of the above
NeoBokrug Elytis: ANd it works with google calendar too?
Verity Goodnight: I only use it to remind me to go to zoom talks
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): mmh, good good
Boghoss (hivejunker): Sandling, this playlist is making me desperately want to wake up my family just to tell them i love them
Sandling Honey: haha
Aposiopesis Fullstop: The recurring features for Premium are good, and it looks like that’s unlocked at only L$5 a month.
Sandling Honey: I think I ruined it then
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I’d chip in toward that.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha
Sandling Honey: Don’t play them this
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, I’d pay for premium
Aposiopesis Fullstop: This is so pretty and rad, though!
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa) throws her bottle caps at Neo
Boghoss (hivejunker): this is the “mummy… what is daddy doing in the dark?” twist
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah, something to consider
NeoBokrug Elytis: I also found out there’s little text RPG games folks can play.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: !!!!
NeoBokrug Elytis: As well as games on voice channels
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :O
Aposiopesis Fullstop: WORDS, YOU SAY
NeoBokrug Elytis: Lots of little shit that snuck by.
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): :0
Candide LeMay: roleplaying games games?
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha yeah
Verity Goodnight: haha yeah I am currently 6th in winnings on the money bot in another discord
NeoBokrug Elytis: Anyway, I do want more general fun stuff on Discord.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): MUSH on Discord XD
NeoBokrug Elytis: Since our server has a lot of supporters.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: None of my other servers I am a part of are boosted as ours.
Verity Goodnight: I like the confetti thing :D
Aposiopesis Fullstop: The times I’ve played non-Wastelands games with other folks on Discord have been a lot of fun. I don’t know if that might be antithetical to the “get more people inworld and doing things” goal, though…
NeoBokrug Elytis: Haha yeah
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): what does it mean to boost a server?
Verity Goodnight: it’s a nice community thing still
NeoBokrug Elytis: It unlocks stuff. We’re currently level 2. We need to add more emojii
NeoBokrug Elytis: Yeah. Nice little perks
NeoBokrug Elytis: Better audio / video quality. Bigger uploads, more custom emojii, and we got a banner
Boghoss (hivejunker): oh… im getting a memory
Boghoss (hivejunker): I think i ran a discord 2 years ago
Boghoss (hivejunker): for a raider group on fallout 76
Boghoss (hivejunker): it had a bar with minigames
Boghoss (hivejunker): themed
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha, neat!
Boghoss (hivejunker): thats a thing you can do on discord, with bots
NeoBokrug Elytis: I think that’s it for estate stuff.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Any other questions or comments?
Aposiopesis Fullstop tops up Neo’s water and oil levels.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Hahaha
Drifter (wastelanddrifter): So how should I be sending out event notices for now?
NeoBokrug Elytis: As we have been until I change things.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Telegram. :D
Verity Goodnight: steam-pigeon
Beezle (beezle.warburton): people eat the carrier pigeons o.O
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Buzzard mail
NeoBokrug Elytis: Knowing drifter, he has a working one in his room
Beezle (beezle.warburton): *burps feathers*
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa) eyes on Beezle
NeoBokrug Elytis: And if anyone wants to start running events, but is shy about it, let me know.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Send me a self-addressed stamped envelope and I will mail a handwritten event notice fortnightly. :V
NeoBokrug Elytis: I have way more experience than I should have.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Plus a few tools that can help.
NeoBokrug Elytis: So events are styaing the same until changes are investigated / made.
NeoBokrug Elytis: But that work will start soon.
NeoBokrug Elytis: There will be more tiny parcels probably starting next week.
Beezle (beezle.warburton): wewt
NeoBokrug Elytis: A land store is in the works.
NeoBokrug Elytis: North Gate is still being worked on.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Regarding Role Play
Aposiopesis Fullstop: (I might try to send out my own Today In The Wastelands notices earlier in the day, if that might make a difference?)
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Notices are such butts that it’s just plain hard to say whether it matters when you send them. Hahaha
NeoBokrug Elytis: I think for now I will just point people to the N — but I want to flesh out that role play wing of things.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And everyone still wants inworld notices the same was we have now?
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): yeah
Verity Goodnight: yes pls inworld notices
Boghoss (hivejunker): thumbs up emoji
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Very yes inworld notices and chats.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Weekly reminders inworld with landowner and roleplay group notices. Daily reminders for “The N” group.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And events on discord with the weekly reminder to check them out — (until that changes)
Boghoss (hivejunker): sandling, which album is this from?
NeoBokrug Elytis: And then for me to work on an : Inworld dynamic poster system and a subscribe-o-mattic
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): This is from their album, LAST WALTZ
NeoBokrug Elytis: Anyone else have any ideas or thoughts about anything?
Boghoss (hivejunker): cheers tay
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): Whne does the pig RP start?
Sandling Honey: Yis, Last Waltz
Boghoss (hivejunker): i feel like everyone is looking at me to answer that, so i’m just going to kick at sand and pretend im busy with something
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): haha
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): haha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: Next weekend is Barrelhead Bazarr —
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): You started this, boss!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: RP always starts at the same time: whenever you put up your Ruin’t tag. :D
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NeoBokrug Elytis: Good time to RP
NeoBokrug Elytis: And Booze and blather.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I’d like to see more RP events if people are brave enough to hosts.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: And believe you me, if I could host a Euro-friendly hour of that, I would love to.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: But I am a day-job-having chumpette.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I’m just thinking… a possible event idea, but, just an idea… it involves giant crabs and racing… *shrugs*
Rax Stooge: I miss the beetle racetrack
NeoBokrug Elytis: You know I ain’t doing much with all the extra prims in Burnt Oak yet.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha, the Beetle Races were fun, though I cannot steer them worth a dang.
NeoBokrug Elytis: I could ask Aki to rez a race track again.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: !
Rax Stooge: Thats what makes them fun
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hehe
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I don’t think i’ve ever seen that
NeoBokrug Elytis: If you want to host Mutsy, I can make the request and have it set up.
NeoBokrug Elytis: Let me find you a video quick
NeoBokrug Elytis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEW9U8qZHs0
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): oooh wow
NeoBokrug Elytis: It’s like video game kart racing, with boons and banes on the track altering how you play.
NeoBokrug Elytis: And the beetles have different stats
Aposiopesis Fullstop: The control-inversion one fucks me up so hard. Hahaha
Rax Stooge: Man that was such a gfood time
Boghoss (hivejunker): oh, can i ask, whose baby are the tusks? who’s idea was it to add them to bestiary?
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): ok, that is cool
NeoBokrug Elytis: Anne Cloud
NeoBokrug Elytis: Sandusky
Boghoss (hivejunker): cheers
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Sandusky wrote about them in the Wiki first, and Anne made ’em!
Rax Stooge: Im kinda into this wholoe pig mob thing
NeoBokrug Elytis: Anne Cloud actually has an unreleased updated one. But we’re all so busy.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: !
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): :O
Rax Stooge: !!!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: What if we all make Big Sad Eyes at her.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: ó_ò
NeoBokrug Elytis: It’s 80% done I think.
Rax Stooge: N i c e
NeoBokrug Elytis: Buy her time. :P
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): hehe, that might work
xrrawva: i’m trying to think of a way to disguise as one but i cant
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahha, alwasy more effective!
Boghoss (hivejunker): i think i’ve increased the sales of her first edition significantly, lol
Verity Goodnight: paper pig mask?
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): wear the tusks, you’ll pass as one
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Tape paintbrushes to your spine and tail?
xrrawva: not the tuusks nonono
xrrawva: ill look like those wow characters
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): haha
Verity Goodnight: my inv says I have a “piggy avatar” from the same place that did the skin I am wearing and I have no memory of it
NeoBokrug Elytis: If I can get Anne to rez the track, and some demo beetles, i will host a single event. From there, if people want it to be a regular thing, someone else will have to host it. But I will commit to leaving the track there until I decide to do something with Burnt Oak.
Boghoss (hivejunker): i love the taped paint brushes idea
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): That’d be cool to participate!
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Little tin can hoofs on your feet.
Rax Stooge: Hooray, ive been parading the racing beetle and the ridem crab around a bit on my adventures
NeoBokrug Elytis: She has compatible racing cupcakes too
Verity Goodnight: I have one of those!
Rax Stooge: hhaah
Verity Goodnight: it’s great and you can accessories with a giant cherry on your head
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
Rax Stooge: I wonmder how the crabs faire on the track
NeoBokrug Elytis: I can’t remember if she repackaged them for the gacha ban or not. THe racers in general
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): Well I got to see them beetles racing, and hopefully I can plan something out in my brain that will be good to host it regulary :D
NeoBokrug Elytis: They’re just avatars, and they don’t work with the game items.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I mentioned it earlier more vaguely, but: PROMAGEDDON is approaching at the end of the month – Saturday, May 28! A formal dance without the formality. Expect ragged dresses, stained suits, rusted jewelry, gunshot top hats, Mutant tribal finery, and more. I’ll also award L$1000 to my incredibly-subjective choice of Best Outfit – one Male, one Female. Even The Arena will be decked out in dire decorations! FIGHT NIGHT will be a special 2-vs-2 tournament — and the winning couple will be crowned Prom King and Prom Queen!
Verity Goodnight: I know I used the gacha swapper to get copy versions
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): \o.o/
NeoBokrug Elytis: I will BRB
Boghoss (hivejunker): thats astounding apo
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I will need to patch together a press dress for my piggu
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): dress
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’s always been a hoot so far.
Boghoss (hivejunker): oh oh, lady gaga’s bacon dress tay!!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): haha
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Hahaha, there have indeed been bacon dresses in the past – Ztar had a baconskirt once!
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): :)
Rax Stooge: Bacon eh
Boghoss (hivejunker): you are what you eat rax
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): I’ll just texture on a flimsy attempt at making a dress with hoofy fingers
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa) makes crab noises
Rax Stooge: the pork patrol overe here might have something to say about that
NeoBokrug Elytis: It does not look like the beetles have been migrated from the gacha ban, but I know the existing ones are transfer.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Haha!
NeoBokrug Elytis: And
NeoBokrug Elytis: We made a demo set of beetles that anyone can use.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): \o/
NeoBokrug Elytis: So. I know she is busier than I am
NeoBokrug Elytis: I will prod her though.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): I can pinch her
NeoBokrug Elytis: She may dread trying to update those. I think there’s like a total of 60
xrrawva: uhm “oink”
xrrawva: (that’s my disguise)
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): i beliv you xrry
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): This is the most effedup mashup I’ve ever heard :-)
NeoBokrug Elytis: Thank you for the tunes Sandling.
Sandling Honey: Haha most welcome :D
Slomoh (impunitypraecox): So thank you
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Aweeesome tunesss
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): pinches Sandling for the good tunes
Aposiopesis Fullstop: This is so weird and great.
Sandling Honey: 8′) *Cries internally*
NeoBokrug Elytis: And, I think Apo is going to make music in an hour.
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): where though!?
NeoBokrug Elytis: I will start working on some of the things I mentioned tonight, at least on paper.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I am! It’s FREE COMIC BOOK DAY – so we’re partying at Sam Wyx’s with a set of comics-themed songs. And there’ll be actual free comics from her and Scrim Pinion!
Mutsy (mutsy.kaligawa): O_O
Verity Goodnight: :O
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Ooo nice
Boghoss (hivejunker): oh snap, looks like im not sleeping for a while
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Thank you for playing, Sandling! So great of things. :D
Boghoss (hivejunker): exceptional set sandling
NeoBokrug Elytis: Thanks for coming to the meeting everyone.
Sandling Honey: \ o /
Verity Goodnight: laters taters
Aposiopesis Fullstop: Thanks for hosting, and for being so clear and upfront about it all, Neo.
Boghoss (hivejunker): agreed
Tintosha (tayasha.tammas): Yeaaah, thank you Sand and Neo!
NeoBokrug Elytis: It is not pleasant to bring unwelcome news. But hiding the truth is worse.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: It’s always scary to have times like this, and I appreciate that we’re not all kept in the dark, that you’re listening to what we have to say, and we don’t just wake up one day and find a whole region gone.
Aposiopesis Fullstop: I have had literal nightmares about that, because I am DEEPLY a nerd.
Sandling Honey: Cheerios :D
Candide LeMay: night all
Aposiopesis Fullstop: G’night!